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	<description>Why do I have a Blog?  When I find out, I'll tell you.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Politicians Hate Your Pipes by Linoge</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/08/politicians-hate-your-pipes.html#comment-12691</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have no idea how thankful I am to be rid of the Peoples' Republic of Kalifornistan.  I am somewhat amazed, though, that this bill made it out of legislation while the government-controlled thermostat one did not.  Granted, this is supposedly "for the environment", but so was the other one...  Oh, wait...  I was expecting consistency out of politicians, and, even worse, Kalifornistan politicians?  Silly me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have no idea how thankful I am to be rid of the Peoples&#8217; Republic of Kalifornistan.  I am somewhat amazed, though, that this bill made it out of legislation while the government-controlled thermostat one did not.  Granted, this is supposedly &#8220;for the environment&#8221;, but so was the other one&#8230;  Oh, wait&#8230;  I was expecting consistency out of politicians, and, even worse, Kalifornistan politicians?  Silly me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Virgin Likes Comics by Virgin Likes Comics - NOT! &#8212; Andy&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2006/01/virgin-likes-comics.html#comment-12688</link>
		<dc:creator>Virgin Likes Comics - NOT! &#8212; Andy&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in 2006, I reported that Virgin had opened a joint venture with Gotham Entertainment to take advantage of a growing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in 2006, I reported that Virgin had opened a joint venture with Gotham Entertainment to take advantage of a growing [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on IE HTML Element SPY by Andrew Milo</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/08/ie-html-element-spy.html#comment-12679</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me a cynic, but I'll bet that something like this WILL save you hours of heartache sometime in the future.  :^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me a cynic, but I&#8217;ll bet that something like this WILL save you hours of heartache sometime in the future.  :^)</p>
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		<title>Comment on IE HTML Element SPY by Linoge</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/08/ie-html-element-spy.html#comment-12677</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something tells me something like this would have saved me hours of heartache about a year ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something tells me something like this would have saved me hours of heartache about a year ago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by Andrew Milo</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/07/bsod-with-asus-p5n-d-motherboard.html#comment-12674</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, sorry, just saw your reply now!  You are most welcome for the help - anytime.  I'm glad that everything is working for you now!  :)

Just to answer your question too  - yeah, you can certainly remove the DVD/CDROM out of the boot order without it being a problem.  That simply means that the machine won't boot from a CDROM that has an operating system on it (like your Windows disk, or like a specially made Bootable CDROM.)  The only time you really usually need to do something like that is when there are problems, and its really easy to just go back into the BIOS and put it back in the order.  Anyway, great job!  Thanks for letting me know that it worked!  :)

Bortz, you are most welcome.  I'm really glad that this info can help people!  At first I was pretty mad at Asus, but once this fix was in place, I have to say that the board has been rock solid from that point on.  I've use ABIT boards previously, and they were great for a number of years, but their quality went down, so I switched to Asus.

I guess its the age old problem of - Good Features, Fast Performance, Cheap Money - Pick any two!  :)

All the best,
A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, sorry, just saw your reply now!  You are most welcome for the help - anytime.  I&#8217;m glad that everything is working for you now!  <img src='http://blog.miloco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just to answer your question too  - yeah, you can certainly remove the DVD/CDROM out of the boot order without it being a problem.  That simply means that the machine won&#8217;t boot from a CDROM that has an operating system on it (like your Windows disk, or like a specially made Bootable CDROM.)  The only time you really usually need to do something like that is when there are problems, and its really easy to just go back into the BIOS and put it back in the order.  Anyway, great job!  Thanks for letting me know that it worked!  <img src='http://blog.miloco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bortz, you are most welcome.  I&#8217;m really glad that this info can help people!  At first I was pretty mad at Asus, but once this fix was in place, I have to say that the board has been rock solid from that point on.  I&#8217;ve use ABIT boards previously, and they were great for a number of years, but their quality went down, so I switched to Asus.</p>
<p>I guess its the age old problem of - Good Features, Fast Performance, Cheap Money - Pick any two!  <img src='http://blog.miloco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All the best,<br />
A</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by bortz</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/07/bsod-with-asus-p5n-d-motherboard.html#comment-12673</link>
		<dc:creator>bortz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say thanks for the BSOD fix! The BSOD error I was getting was with ndis.sys running on winxp 64 bit, on a p5n-d with a Q9450 processor and 8 gigs of mushkin PC800 DDR 2 ram.  This mobo is very finicky and won't even post if I have my external usb hard drive powered on at boot time. Last ASUS board I'll ever buy due to crappy NVIDIA drivers. Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say thanks for the BSOD fix! The BSOD error I was getting was with ndis.sys running on winxp 64 bit, on a p5n-d with a Q9450 processor and 8 gigs of mushkin PC800 DDR 2 ram.  This mobo is very finicky and won&#8217;t even post if I have my external usb hard drive powered on at boot time. Last ASUS board I&#8217;ll ever buy due to crappy NVIDIA drivers. Peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/07/bsod-with-asus-p5n-d-motherboard.html#comment-12672</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind, I just went for it and now all is working fine. Not sure how you figured this out, but great work - thanks for the post and for the follow-up help. Take care...
Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind, I just went for it and now all is working fine. Not sure how you figured this out, but great work - thanks for the post and for the follow-up help. Take care&#8230;<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I can't thank you enough for helping with this, much appreciated. Just want to be sure that I have everything straight so that I don't have to reinstall everything again. 

It sounds like you have a good handle on what I have set up, but just so we're both definitely on the same page. I have two SATA hard drives and a SATA DVD drive.  The nvgt.sys BSOD happens just as Windows gets to the desktop. Just confirming that if I remove the DVD drive from the boot order completely that it will let me then boot into Windows. I understand that nothing's guaranteed but want to be sure that we're talking about the same thing here.

Thanks again - I'll wait until I hear from you then give the 750 plus 790 media shield drivers a try...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I can&#8217;t thank you enough for helping with this, much appreciated. Just want to be sure that I have everything straight so that I don&#8217;t have to reinstall everything again. </p>
<p>It sounds like you have a good handle on what I have set up, but just so we&#8217;re both definitely on the same page. I have two SATA hard drives and a SATA DVD drive.  The nvgt.sys BSOD happens just as Windows gets to the desktop. Just confirming that if I remove the DVD drive from the boot order completely that it will let me then boot into Windows. I understand that nothing&#8217;s guaranteed but want to be sure that we&#8217;re talking about the same thing here.</p>
<p>Thanks again - I&#8217;ll wait until I hear from you then give the 750 plus 790 media shield drivers a try&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by Andrew Milo</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/07/bsod-with-asus-p5n-d-motherboard.html#comment-12670</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

Well, lets start from the beginning and see where things break down.  I think I know what may be happening - it sounds like the rest of the drivers for the board are simply missing.

You have to install EVERYTHING from the 750 driver package (the one that came with the motherboard, or one that you've downloaded) first.  That should give you all of the drivers for everything on the motherboard.   Boot the machine and make sure that everything (ethernet, etc.) is there.  You may get a BSOD eventually, but the goal here is to verify that you have Eternet, firewire, etc.

If you are getting a BSOD immediately upon boot up, so that you CAN'T get into windows to verify that the other drivers are working, try rem0ving your SATA CD/DVD drive from the boot order.  Don't disable the drive, just remove it as a boot device in the BIOS.  That should work to bypass a BSOD on boot up.

Once you have verified that all the "other" stuff is working (ethernet, etc.) then it is time to really fix the BSOD by installing the 790 Media Shield drivers on top of the other 750 stuff that you installed previously.

The 750 drivers will run the majority of the board, but the SATA devices will be running off of the 790 Media Shield drivers.

When everything is back to order, either put your CD/DVD back in the boot order, or just remember that you've removed it from the list - its easy to put it back in, I just leave mine out.

Let me know how that goes!

Best of luck to you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>Well, lets start from the beginning and see where things break down.  I think I know what may be happening - it sounds like the rest of the drivers for the board are simply missing.</p>
<p>You have to install EVERYTHING from the 750 driver package (the one that came with the motherboard, or one that you&#8217;ve downloaded) first.  That should give you all of the drivers for everything on the motherboard.   Boot the machine and make sure that everything (ethernet, etc.) is there.  You may get a BSOD eventually, but the goal here is to verify that you have Eternet, firewire, etc.</p>
<p>If you are getting a BSOD immediately upon boot up, so that you CAN&#8217;T get into windows to verify that the other drivers are working, try rem0ving your SATA CD/DVD drive from the boot order.  Don&#8217;t disable the drive, just remove it as a boot device in the BIOS.  That should work to bypass a BSOD on boot up.</p>
<p>Once you have verified that all the &#8220;other&#8221; stuff is working (ethernet, etc.) then it is time to really fix the BSOD by installing the 790 Media Shield drivers on top of the other 750 stuff that you installed previously.</p>
<p>The 750 drivers will run the majority of the board, but the SATA devices will be running off of the 790 Media Shield drivers.</p>
<p>When everything is back to order, either put your CD/DVD back in the boot order, or just remember that you&#8217;ve removed it from the list - its easy to put it back in, I just leave mine out.</p>
<p>Let me know how that goes!</p>
<p>Best of luck to you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/07/bsod-with-asus-p5n-d-motherboard.html#comment-12669</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I have no Ethernet connection either. Uninstalled the 790 and tried the 690. Still no bluescreen, but no ethernet, firewire. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated - everyone else seemed to have good luck with Andy's suggestion so perhaps I'm doing something wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I have no Ethernet connection either. Uninstalled the 790 and tried the 690. Still no bluescreen, but no ethernet, firewire. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated - everyone else seemed to have good luck with Andy&#8217;s suggestion so perhaps I&#8217;m doing something wrong?</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/07/bsod-with-asus-p5n-d-motherboard.html#comment-12668</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried this and I'm not getting BSOD anymore, BUT...I have no Ethernet and no Firewire, etc.  I installed only the media shield, as directed here. Scared to install anything else, because last time, the BSOD came just after the boot, making me have to reinstall Windows. Appreciate any additional insight you can offer here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried this and I&#8217;m not getting BSOD anymore, BUT&#8230;I have no Ethernet and no Firewire, etc.  I installed only the media shield, as directed here. Scared to install anything else, because last time, the BSOD came just after the boot, making me have to reinstall Windows. Appreciate any additional insight you can offer here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olympic Hopefulls by Harry</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/08/olympic-hopefulls.html#comment-12666</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words:

Ouch. 

Ouch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words:</p>
<p>Ouch. </p>
<p>Ouch!</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by Adam</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/07/bsod-with-asus-p5n-d-motherboard.html#comment-12663</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was having this error, but when I booted windows! but, your find seems to have fixed it, ILU SO MUCH! &#60;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was having this error, but when I booted windows! but, your find seems to have fixed it, ILU SO MUCH! &lt;3</p>
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		<title>Comment on FireFox Add-On: DownloadThemAll! by Chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.miloco.com/2008/01/firefox-add-on-downloadthemall.html#comment-12644</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COOL!!!!!!!!!!! my download is always slow!! and always say 1-100 days! but now i found out this!!!!! COOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COOL!!!!!!!!!!! my download is always slow!! and always say 1-100 days! but now i found out this!!!!! COOL!</p>
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		<title>Comment on BSOD with Asus P5N-D Motherboard by Andrew Milo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tyler!  Thanks for the kind words - glad to be of service!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tyler!  Thanks for the kind words - glad to be of service!  <img src='http://blog.miloco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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